![]() These seem to be American born agains or Bibilcal literalists. I don't think the Catholic Church has a position on the papyrus. Anyone an idea? JFW | 18:09, 8 November 2005 (UTC) Reply these "religious organizations" are themselves "fringe". As I said above, we need an authoratitive review from a credentialed Egyptologist to be represented. I have also provided some links supporting my assertion that religious organisations seem to prefer this "fringe" interpretation (no surprise). I have replaced it with "some", which indicates clearly that these are in the minority. I think this should be made clear in the article.- Rob117 21:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC) Reply I think "fringe historians" is a POV term. This Egyptology site refers to the Exodus association as that of "fringe historians." The identification with the Exodus is not generally accepted by scholars. What is the modern provenance of this artifact? Who discovered it, and when?.There are many online sources discussing its interpretation, but I had not the time to find out an authoratitive view from an established Egyptologist. There seem to be alternative views on its placement in history. I have provided the Van Seters reference (his credentials will not be easy to obtain). Anyone have a picture of the papyrus that we can use?.Is there disagreement about the interpretation of the papyrus?.What is Ipuwer (personal name, place name.)?.Where is the papyrus currently? see below at official name.I would suggest simply listing the text and let it speak for itself. The translation and/or a link to the content of the Papyrus is conspicuously missing while everything that is listed is speculation. Literature Wikipedia:WikiProject Literature Template:WikiProject Literature Literature articles If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. This article is within the scope of WikiProject Literature, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Literature on Wikipedia. This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. This article has been rated as C-Class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. Archaeology Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology Template:WikiProject Archaeology Archaeology articles This article is within the scope of WikiProject Archaeology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Archaeology on Wikipedia. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture - Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Any other candidates?Ī boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)Īnyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. ![]() I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have. Leiden I 344 is talking about, but I don’t think there’s enough evidence to say that it has any direct bearing on the events described in the Bible.We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. ![]() Many scholars have suggested that the account in the book of Exodus contains elements from various oral traditions created in Egypt or Canaan in different periods, since Western Semites did sometimes infiltrate - or invade - Egypt, and even ruled Egypt for a while. This doesn’t mean, of course, that this Egyptian text is totally irrelevant. It’s a tempting idea, but the trouble with associating that particular papyrus with the exodus is that, by even the most conservative chronology, it dates to a period well before the exodus. He questioned the validity of the Ipuwer Papyrus because it didn’t make its way in to your book (or maybe we just can’t find it)!ĭo you know anything of this document and if so, can you give us more information on it and your thoughts? My brother brought up an interesting point. It may be considered a “first hand” literal account or poetry written about the economic downfall of the time. Based on what I understand of this document, it appears to describe the plagues in Egypt. My brother and I were looking at your book, How To Read The Bible, over this past Passover. ![]()
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